Defense towers in the water

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Defense towers in the water

Postby KGB » Mon May 26, 2014 11:41 pm

Thanks to the Snowflake tourney I just learned that you can construct defense towers in the water!

This seems like a bug because not only does it look funny but it doesn't make any sense that units with the construct ability would be able to build towers in the middle of the ocean.

There is also a game balance issue here too because of the way Ports are handled. If you build a tower on the port (which you can do) it will be almost impossible for land units to attack and defeat your tower since they are force to fight at 15 strength because the game doesn't allow you to convert to better boats.

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Re: Defense towers in the water

Postby Igor » Tue May 27, 2014 1:33 am

KGB, good to know I taught you to build towers during Grand Final tournament. So many things I could taught you yet :)
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Re: Defense towers in the water

Postby Moonknight » Tue May 27, 2014 3:02 am

Yes, this seems like a flaw...
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Re: Defense towers in the water

Postby KGB » Tue May 27, 2014 4:57 pm

Igor,

I am eager to soak up all your knowledge :)

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Re: Defense towers in the water

Postby Igor » Tue May 27, 2014 6:32 pm

Then you have to play more 1x1 ladder games and to take part in tournaments where you can meet me in game.
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Re: Defense towers in the water

Postby KGB » Tue May 27, 2014 10:26 pm

I know. But I also don't want to delay too many tournaments or ladder games with slow play. I'm busy these days so it's hard for me to keep up with 1 and even 2 day turn times.

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Re: Defense towers in the water

Postby KGB » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:19 pm

Any progress on this? It's a bit ridiculous for flying stacks to be building towers on water or mountains or other terrain that doesn't make sense.

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Re: Defense towers in the water

Postby Igor » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:12 am

I just today attacked tower +15 defense in mountains :-)
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Re: Defense towers in the water

Postby piranha » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:15 am

We will remove the ability to build towers on ports but keep the other options. There are defence buildings in shallow water and in mountains so its not that crazy :-). Perhaps it should be removed from deep water as well.
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Re: Defense towers in the water

Postby KGB » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:45 pm

Piranha,

It's currently impossible as a map maker to place a tower in the water (as it should be). It auto-places a spot of land under it.

So I am not sure why players in the game can build such things as they don't make sense. Also if they can build towers at random in the water, why not bridges or ports?

The other problem is that these towers often are 100% immune to siege because I've noticed players building them on tiny puddles of water with no ports and no siege unit can move on mountains. It's very cheap to get +10 or +15 stack bonus that can't be countered.

If you are going to allow them on water/mountains at least triple or quadruple the cost to reflect how hard it is to build there. Even in the modern world think of how few buildings (or defensive positions) you see built in the water (river, lakes, oceans) or on the sides of mountains. I can't think of any that are built in the water...

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